Monday, 1st December 2008, 7-00pm
Venue: Wicklea Youth and Community Centre, Wick Road
MINUTES
PRESENT
David Waters (Chair BCP), Theresa Driscoll (Resident, Director BCP Ltd), Steve Pearce (Secretary BCP), Roy Marsh (Brislington Conservatives), Jackie Norman (Councillor Bris W), Barbara Lewis (Councillor Bris E), Louise Bale (vice-Chair), Harry Kauntze (Resident, Paintworks), Lorna Heaysman (BCC Community Development), Ann Stobbs (BEC), Colette Linehan (Treasurer BCP), Angela Piccini (Resident, Director BCP Ltd), John Leah (Lancaster University), Elizabeth Venn (Resident), Peter Main (Councillor Bris W), Simon Crew (Councillor Bris E), Ali Hender (Brislington Neighbourhood Centre), Trevor Jones (Young Bristol), Maurice King (Wicklea Shadow Management), Sarah Howard (BCC), Matt Dibben (BCC), Hayley Hendrick-White (Bristol PCT – Stop Smoking Service), Kim Miller (BCC Planning), John Douglas (BCC Planning), P-Sgt Tim Chandler (Police), Jon House (BCC Dep. Ch. Exec), Eric Booth (Cycling City), John Roy (Cycling City), Becky Thoburn (Resident, APAG), Simon Carpenter (Cycling City), Steve Moore (BCC).
1 Apologies
Gill Luxford (Wicklea Shadow Management), Lorraine Linehan (Resident), Helen Adshead (Riverscapes), Pru Comben (Resident).
2 Allocation of minute taker
Steve Pearce
3 Minutes of last meeting
3.1 The minutes were accepted as a true record & signed by the Chair.
3.2 DW thanked AP & TD for all of the time, hard work and commitment that they’ve shown to BCP over the last several years.
SP to write
3.2 DW thanked AP & TD for all of the time, hard work and commitment that they’ve shown to BCP over the last several years.
SP to write
4 Matters Arising
Wicklea:
4.1 John Howse (Deputy Chief-Exec BCC) reported that he is new to local govt (previous career in policing) and had been advised to meet Brislington & Greater Bedminster Community Partnerships as these are reported to be well run. JH had already visited Wicklea and is aware that it is not an ideal asset.
4.2 A Community Asset Transfer policy is wending its way through the machinery of BCC. A number of areas are to pilot the policy and Bristol is one of these. A number of groups have expressed an interest in Wicklea and it is important to get a sustainable proposal together from a sustainable group.
4.3 Trevor Jones reported that he was surprised that BCP had approached BCC without reference to Young Bristol.
4.4 DW stated that it is necessary to move the matter along with a bit more urgency than has been shown to date.
4.1 John Howse (Deputy Chief-Exec BCC) reported that he is new to local govt (previous career in policing) and had been advised to meet Brislington & Greater Bedminster Community Partnerships as these are reported to be well run. JH had already visited Wicklea and is aware that it is not an ideal asset.
4.2 A Community Asset Transfer policy is wending its way through the machinery of BCC. A number of areas are to pilot the policy and Bristol is one of these. A number of groups have expressed an interest in Wicklea and it is important to get a sustainable proposal together from a sustainable group.
4.3 Trevor Jones reported that he was surprised that BCP had approached BCC without reference to Young Bristol.
4.4 DW stated that it is necessary to move the matter along with a bit more urgency than has been shown to date.
5 Traffic & Transport – Cycling City
5.1 BCC has succeeded in securing 11.4 million pounds of government funding which is to be matched by BCC.
5.2 The target is to double the number of cyclists in Bristol. Cycling England has given the green light to the delivery programme. The project is very short, just 2.5 years.
5.3 For Brislington major issues will be to see what can we do to make the A4 more cycle friendly and getting the nervous onto bikes.
5.4 Community Engagement: BCP knows the community. What are the barriers to effective community engagement in Brislington? Is it possible to identify local "one-man-bands" that are doing community engagement with little or no support.
5.5 Business Engagement: The Cycling City team wants to help businesses to produce Green Travel Plans. 3-mile journeys (typical of many that are made for work) are among those most easily transferable to bikes.
5.6 Infrastructure: There is a need for more infrastructure to promote cycling. eg there is no secure bike-park at Wicklea. This would encourage people to use bikes.
5.7 CRISP (Cycle Route implementation and Stakeholder Panel) methodology involves a process of walking a particular road to identify problems on it.
5.8 While Cycling City is all about cycling, other stuff follows from that—including getting people to think about how their neighbourhoods work.
5.9 There will be an element of looking at areas where cycling is historically low and seeing how to increase that (includes interest from PCT). Some small grants will be made available to help start up cycling projects.
5.10 Some of the resistance to cycling is down to perceptions around safety, security and knowing about the network of routes. Kids often want to go out on their bikes but parents often won't let them.
5.11 There is a problem of aggression by other road users towards cyclists (particularly lorries & vans in Brislington).
5.12 There is a need to identify the best routes to get somewhere. The route you'd drive isn't the way you'd use on a bike. If there is sufficient interest, guides might come out to show routes.
5.13 The Callington Rd link won't prejudice the cycle route to Tesco from the bottom of Talbot Rd.
5.2 The target is to double the number of cyclists in Bristol. Cycling England has given the green light to the delivery programme. The project is very short, just 2.5 years.
5.3 For Brislington major issues will be to see what can we do to make the A4 more cycle friendly and getting the nervous onto bikes.
5.4 Community Engagement: BCP knows the community. What are the barriers to effective community engagement in Brislington? Is it possible to identify local "one-man-bands" that are doing community engagement with little or no support.
5.5 Business Engagement: The Cycling City team wants to help businesses to produce Green Travel Plans. 3-mile journeys (typical of many that are made for work) are among those most easily transferable to bikes.
5.6 Infrastructure: There is a need for more infrastructure to promote cycling. eg there is no secure bike-park at Wicklea. This would encourage people to use bikes.
5.7 CRISP (Cycle Route implementation and Stakeholder Panel) methodology involves a process of walking a particular road to identify problems on it.
5.8 While Cycling City is all about cycling, other stuff follows from that—including getting people to think about how their neighbourhoods work.
5.9 There will be an element of looking at areas where cycling is historically low and seeing how to increase that (includes interest from PCT). Some small grants will be made available to help start up cycling projects.
5.10 Some of the resistance to cycling is down to perceptions around safety, security and knowing about the network of routes. Kids often want to go out on their bikes but parents often won't let them.
5.11 There is a problem of aggression by other road users towards cyclists (particularly lorries & vans in Brislington).
5.12 There is a need to identify the best routes to get somewhere. The route you'd drive isn't the way you'd use on a bike. If there is sufficient interest, guides might come out to show routes.
5.13 The Callington Rd link won't prejudice the cycle route to Tesco from the bottom of Talbot Rd.
6. Planning – Call for Sites
6.1 The Call for Sites process is part of the Bristol Development Framework process. BDF is a suite of documents that will replace the Local Plan, which is past its "sell-by date"!
6.2 One of these documents is the Core Strategy—a strategic document for the city that is about where development takes place (employment land, housing, etc.)
6.3 The Site Allocations Development Planning Document (SA-DPD) includes a detailed map of what-goes-where for the city. Call for Sites is the first stage of producing the SA-DPD and is live until 19th December. The emphasis is on identifying areas where change in use might occur.
6.4 The Strategic Planning team is linking with the Parks & Green Spaces Strategy and the production of Area Green Space Plans.
6.5 The SA-DPD is an important document as it will be the first thing to be checked when planning applications are submitted to the council. Some of the things that are coming to light at the moment have included possible retail uses along the A4 Bath Rd and the highlighting of supermarket car parks as an inefficient use of space.
6.6 Participation in the process requires the filling in of a simple form. Part 1 of the form is compulsory (name and contact details, identification of the site, current use and proposed future use—nothing too difficult). A map is required with every form to aid identification but can be printed from BCC website.
6.7 A consultation document will be produced in 2009 and some involvement events (workshops etc.) will be held.
Q's & A's:
Q. Are there any Compulsory Purchase powers to back up the Call for Sites where a need to regenerate urban black spots is identified?
A. CP is expensive. The expectation is that we do the easy to deliver stuff first, because that’s what the Secretary of State requires. Here, we are looking at the community's aspirations.
Q. What happens when there is a tension between different aspirations regarding density of development?
A. Generally densities don't get a mention this early in the process.
Q. If there are two proposals for the same site how is this resolved?
A. Any discussion of this is in public. It should be noted that the "colour on the map" (preferred use) doesn't guarantee a safeguard for a site, or guarantee a planning application's success.
Q. Aren't there some accessibility issues with the process in regard to electronic and written forms, problems with printing and then scanning of maps?
A. Planners are ready to provide help & advice.
Q. What account will be given to the weighting of "need" in the area.
A. There are pressures from above (eg RSS & national policy guidance), but the team is backed up by various pieces of work that have happened over a period of years.
Q. Is it possible to build in input from the Community Action Plan document?
A. Yes, definitely. Reference the CAP in CFS forms.
6.8 See the following web site for more info.
Environment and Planning
6.2 One of these documents is the Core Strategy—a strategic document for the city that is about where development takes place (employment land, housing, etc.)
6.3 The Site Allocations Development Planning Document (SA-DPD) includes a detailed map of what-goes-where for the city. Call for Sites is the first stage of producing the SA-DPD and is live until 19th December. The emphasis is on identifying areas where change in use might occur.
6.4 The Strategic Planning team is linking with the Parks & Green Spaces Strategy and the production of Area Green Space Plans.
6.5 The SA-DPD is an important document as it will be the first thing to be checked when planning applications are submitted to the council. Some of the things that are coming to light at the moment have included possible retail uses along the A4 Bath Rd and the highlighting of supermarket car parks as an inefficient use of space.
6.6 Participation in the process requires the filling in of a simple form. Part 1 of the form is compulsory (name and contact details, identification of the site, current use and proposed future use—nothing too difficult). A map is required with every form to aid identification but can be printed from BCC website.
6.7 A consultation document will be produced in 2009 and some involvement events (workshops etc.) will be held.
Q's & A's:
Q. Are there any Compulsory Purchase powers to back up the Call for Sites where a need to regenerate urban black spots is identified?
A. CP is expensive. The expectation is that we do the easy to deliver stuff first, because that’s what the Secretary of State requires. Here, we are looking at the community's aspirations.
Q. What happens when there is a tension between different aspirations regarding density of development?
A. Generally densities don't get a mention this early in the process.
Q. If there are two proposals for the same site how is this resolved?
A. Any discussion of this is in public. It should be noted that the "colour on the map" (preferred use) doesn't guarantee a safeguard for a site, or guarantee a planning application's success.
Q. Aren't there some accessibility issues with the process in regard to electronic and written forms, problems with printing and then scanning of maps?
A. Planners are ready to provide help & advice.
Q. What account will be given to the weighting of "need" in the area.
A. There are pressures from above (eg RSS & national policy guidance), but the team is backed up by various pieces of work that have happened over a period of years.
Q. Is it possible to build in input from the Community Action Plan document?
A. Yes, definitely. Reference the CAP in CFS forms.
6.8 See the following web site for more info.
Environment and Planning
7. Environment
Nightingale Valley/Brook Books:
ONCE Arts & Ceremonies, a local Arts group, is planning a series of books and activities relating to the south Bristol watercourses.
Nothing on AGSP at this time. There will be a problem with getting the same people together again if it goes on too long.
Spring Clean
A pot of money under the "spring clean" umbrella is being made available to support communities in initiatives to clean-up their local area. This is one-off funding, not revenue. The Clean & Green team may like to come to meet BCP.
"The books will be composed of material developed in workshops and visits to the community by Once artists, from allotment holders to schools to nursing homes, using our skills in oral history gathering and accessible creative activities. The four sets of material will then be weaved into four distinct and beautiful story books.
After the creation of each book there will be performed readings at sites along the brooks where contributors and friends and family can watch the tale come alive in situ. Each household alongside the length of the brook will be given a copy of the book to keep in the house and local schools and libraries will hold copies.
The Brook Books will engage different members of the community in their local environment, creating opportunities for expression and delight in their surroundings. It will encourage people to talk about their surroundings across generations and to visit and connect with the environment in a new and creative way."
Area Green Space Plans:After the creation of each book there will be performed readings at sites along the brooks where contributors and friends and family can watch the tale come alive in situ. Each household alongside the length of the brook will be given a copy of the book to keep in the house and local schools and libraries will hold copies.
The Brook Books will engage different members of the community in their local environment, creating opportunities for expression and delight in their surroundings. It will encourage people to talk about their surroundings across generations and to visit and connect with the environment in a new and creative way."
Nothing on AGSP at this time. There will be a problem with getting the same people together again if it goes on too long.
Spring Clean
A pot of money under the "spring clean" umbrella is being made available to support communities in initiatives to clean-up their local area. This is one-off funding, not revenue. The Clean & Green team may like to come to meet BCP.
8. Respect Project
No meeting
9. Treasurer’s Report
10. Neighbourhood Partnerships/PACTe
10.1 TC & DW attended a bespoke training session last week on problem solving. Both reported that it was a very good programme, giving a different slant on the approach to be taken with problems that we confront in the area. Un-pick problems rather than jump to a quick solution that may not work.
10.2 Interim PACT report from TC, this will be made available separately.
10.3 Andrew Spicer has said that he will send a sub to BCP though none was in attendance.
SM will investigate.
10.4 Recent spate of muggings: 2 arrests have been made, 1 more is expected. 1 person charged and in custody. TC is confident that this issue is at an end.
11. Anti-Terror/Community Intel
Nothing to report.
12 Any Other Business.
12.1 Induction of new vicar at St Luke's attended by DW. An impressive event.
12.2 AP presented a CAP review. Volunteers are still required for a number of activities/actions, perhaps we can attract from a wider group than just meeting attenders.
12.3 HH-W from PCT is to run Stop Smoking Groups. Brislington is a priority for her as the area has smoking related issues. It was suggested that any material/information/opportunities could be publicised using the BCP web site, Respect Project workers and CYPS staff at Wicklea.
12.4 Sustrans is to deploy "Neighbourhoods Teams" to promote cycling activities.
12.5 SP is now circulating an Activity Report with the Minutes of meetings to advise of BCP & related activities during the month. Neighbourhood Partnerships operate 24-7, not just for the couple of hours that we meet each month. This increased publicity may stir interest among those not already participating.
12.6 Brislington Neighbourhood Centre. Reminiscence work is proposed at the BNC. Also Debts advice work is a possibility. Intergenerational work continues.
12.7 BT tabled 2 funding applications for APAG.
Date of next meeting: Monday 5th January, 7-00pm at St Peter’s Church Hall.